Comments for City to River Blog http://citytoriver.org/blog Reconnecting St. Louis with the Mississippi Tue, 03 Apr 2012 10:25:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 Comment on MoDOT Announces Public Open House by Mike Murray http://citytoriver.org/blog/?p=691&cpage=1#comment-73508 Mike Murray Tue, 03 Apr 2012 10:25:47 +0000 http://citytoriver.org/blog/?p=691#comment-73508 I-70 should be removed all together & restored to Memorial Blvd. The scar on the cityscape is a throwback to another era. It's no longer all about motorized traffic. I-70 should be removed all together & restored to Memorial Blvd.
The scar on the cityscape is a throwback to another era. It’s no
longer all about motorized traffic.

]]> Comment on No news is bad news: It’s time to consider best available options for Arch grounds by tom beebe st louis http://citytoriver.org/blog/?p=615&cpage=1#comment-72823 tom beebe st louis Thu, 15 Mar 2012 03:41:06 +0000 http://citytoriver.org/blog/?p=615#comment-72823 Where is the bandshell? Yes, a catanery arch makes for great acoustics. So mirror our arch with a horizontal copy,whose ends meet the two legs of the vertical arch. It's apogee (if that's the right term for a horizontal structure) juts oue above where the steps to the levee are now. Above rises a shell for the performers. Below is space for supporting events in the bandshell and the Jefferson Memorial Museum. The latter has an arch of glass reaching down to the levee with brilliant morning light bathing the multi-level exhibits, even the stuffed Bison. Where is the bandshell? Yes, a catanery arch makes for great acoustics. So mirror our arch with a horizontal copy,whose ends meet the two legs of the vertical arch. It’s apogee (if that’s the right term for a horizontal structure) juts oue above where the steps to the levee are now. Above rises a shell for the performers. Below is space for supporting events in the bandshell and the Jefferson Memorial Museum. The latter has an arch of glass reaching down to the levee with brilliant morning light bathing the multi-level exhibits, even the stuffed Bison.

]]> Comment on Arch Grounds: Less Parking, Improved Connectivity by 2015 by Kevin B http://citytoriver.org/blog/?p=657&cpage=1#comment-71329 Kevin B Thu, 05 Jan 2012 23:20:30 +0000 http://citytoriver.org/blog/?p=657#comment-71329 Also, what is that thin building at the SE corner of 1st and Lucas in the site model? Right no that's a vacant lot used for LL events. As far as I can tell, this is the only added Landing component in the model (besides extending Lucas to 3rd). Curious. Also, what is that thin building at the SE corner of 1st and Lucas in the site model? Right no that’s a vacant lot used for LL events. As far as I can tell, this is the only added Landing component in the model (besides extending Lucas to 3rd). Curious.

]]> Comment on Arch Grounds: Less Parking, Improved Connectivity by 2015 by Kevin B http://citytoriver.org/blog/?p=657&cpage=1#comment-71324 Kevin B Thu, 05 Jan 2012 20:49:39 +0000 http://citytoriver.org/blog/?p=657#comment-71324 I'm all for removing the north end parking garage (with the caveat that they had better not put another on Laclede's Landing), but I still have not heard a justifiable reason as to why Washington Avenue should be removed as a river-reaching roadway. One less street for the intersection is not a viable reason. Nor is increased pedestrian access to Laclede's Landing. People won't need to be hand-held down a hill, under the Eads and on to the cobblestone to find the Landing. Crossing a less-used Washington Avenue will not be an issue. Laclede's Landing is already a fairly pedestrian-minded place. It has several streetside cafes, for one. Also, the police have been known to close down 2nd street to traffic on some nights, allowing revelers to safely bar hop or chat with friends. With Washington Avenue closed, that would no longer be an option as more traffic would be forced to filter through the center of the district on Lucas and Morgan -- and frankly, I don't think those old stone streets could take the added wear-and-tear. I’m all for removing the north end parking garage (with the caveat that they had better not put another on Laclede’s Landing), but I still have not heard a justifiable reason as to why Washington Avenue should be removed as a river-reaching roadway.

One less street for the intersection is not a viable reason. Nor is increased pedestrian access to Laclede’s Landing. People won’t need to be hand-held down a hill, under the Eads and on to the cobblestone to find the Landing. Crossing a less-used Washington Avenue will not be an issue.

Laclede’s Landing is already a fairly pedestrian-minded place. It has several streetside cafes, for one. Also, the police have been known to close down 2nd street to traffic on some nights, allowing revelers to safely bar hop or chat with friends. With Washington Avenue closed, that would no longer be an option as more traffic would be forced to filter through the center of the district on Lucas and Morgan — and frankly, I don’t think those old stone streets could take the added wear-and-tear.

]]> Comment on No news is bad news: It’s time to consider best available options for Arch grounds by Eddie in NorCal http://citytoriver.org/blog/?p=615&cpage=1#comment-67808 Eddie in NorCal Fri, 23 Sep 2011 20:14:14 +0000 http://citytoriver.org/blog/?p=615#comment-67808 Where is the mayor in all this? It does seem like pieces of the originally chosen proposal are falling in and out of the plan. Who is MVA accountable to, and why haven't they made any public comment? Only benefit to this delay is that the closer we get to the new I-70 bridge, the better chance of replacing the lid proposal with an at-grade boulevard. Where is the mayor in all this? It does seem like pieces of the originally chosen proposal are falling in and out of the plan. Who is MVA accountable to, and why haven’t they made any public comment?

Only benefit to this delay is that the closer we get to the new I-70 bridge, the better chance of replacing the lid proposal with an at-grade boulevard.

]]> Comment on Upcoming Event Seeks to Re-envision the Mississippi Riverfront by admin http://citytoriver.org/blog/?p=590&cpage=1#comment-67425 admin Wed, 07 Sep 2011 17:30:41 +0000 http://citytoriver.org/blog/?p=590#comment-67425 John- The challenge of Great Rivers Greenway's ambitious River Ring plan is that is has to be built in pieces. The South Riverfront Trail will have a number of return loop options. Currently the River Des Peres Greenway extends from Lansdowne to I-55, however to extensions are currently in engineering that would connect it to <a href="http://www.grgstl.org/projects/river-des-peres-greenway-carondelet-connector.aspx" rel="nofollow">Carondelet Park</a> and to the <a href="http://www.grgstl.org/projects/river-des-peres-greenwayalabama-bridge-to-mississippi-river.aspx" rel="nofollow">South Riverfront Trail/Mississippi River Greenway</a>. By the time the South Riverfront Trail is completed it will be feasible to ride one leg on the South Riverfront Trail and return via a combination of the River Des Peres Greenway, the Christy Greenway, and Morgan Ford/Arsenal designated Bike St. Louis routes. In a longer term the return loop could extend via the River Des Peres and the Chouteau Greenway. Of course, returning to the car is not an issue if you don't drive your car to ride your bicycle! City to River apologizes for the logical fallacy in petitio principii. John-
The challenge of Great Rivers Greenway’s ambitious River Ring plan is that is has to be built in pieces. The South Riverfront Trail will have a number of return loop options. Currently the River Des Peres Greenway extends from Lansdowne to I-55, however to extensions are currently in engineering that would connect it to Carondelet Park and to the South Riverfront Trail/Mississippi River Greenway. By the time the South Riverfront Trail is completed it will be feasible to ride one leg on the South Riverfront Trail and return via a combination of the River Des Peres Greenway, the Christy Greenway, and Morgan Ford/Arsenal designated Bike St. Louis routes. In a longer term the return loop could extend via the River Des Peres and the Chouteau Greenway.

Of course, returning to the car is not an issue if you don’t drive your car to ride your bicycle!

City to River apologizes for the logical fallacy in petitio principii.

]]> Comment on Upcoming Event Seeks to Re-envision the Mississippi Riverfront by John http://citytoriver.org/blog/?p=590&cpage=1#comment-67417 John Wed, 07 Sep 2011 14:24:22 +0000 http://citytoriver.org/blog/?p=590#comment-67417 The only problem I have with these trails is that they are straight, not loops. You either have to arrange for a ride at the other end, or turn around and see the same things again on the way back. (I hate to be a jerk but that's not what "begs the question" means - it's a logical fallacy. You mean "raises the question".) The only problem I have with these trails is that they are straight, not loops. You either have to arrange for a ride at the other end, or turn around and see the same things again on the way back.

(I hate to be a jerk but that’s not what “begs the question” means – it’s a logical fallacy. You mean “raises the question”.)

]]> Comment on City to River Comment on National Park Service Environmental Assessment by Pat Eckelkamp http://citytoriver.org/blog/?p=574&cpage=1#comment-67165 Pat Eckelkamp Tue, 30 Aug 2011 04:05:39 +0000 http://citytoriver.org/blog/?p=574#comment-67165 Highway removal/at-grade boulevard is the only way to go. Highway removal/at-grade boulevard is the only way to go.

]]> Comment on Are we Trading Park Amenities for Even More Highway Infrastructure? by City to River Comment on National Park Service Environmental Assessment « City to River Blog http://citytoriver.org/blog/?p=556&cpage=1#comment-67150 City to River Comment on National Park Service Environmental Assessment « City to River Blog Mon, 29 Aug 2011 14:55:17 +0000 http://citytoriver.org/blog/?p=556#comment-67150 [...] comments to the National Parks Service on the current process and proposal, and especially on the effect of a widened highway on the Arch [...] [...] comments to the National Parks Service on the current process and proposal, and especially on the effect of a widened highway on the Arch [...]

]]> Comment on Make Your Voice Heard: NPS Seeks Comment for Environmental Review Process by City to River Comment on National Park Service Environmental Assessment « City to River Blog http://citytoriver.org/blog/?p=569&cpage=1#comment-67148 City to River Comment on National Park Service Environmental Assessment « City to River Blog Mon, 29 Aug 2011 14:05:07 +0000 http://citytoriver.org/blog/?p=569#comment-67148 [...] Reconnecting St. Louis with the Mississippi « Make Your Voice Heard: NPS Seeks Comment for Environmental Review Process [...] [...] Reconnecting St. Louis with the Mississippi « Make Your Voice Heard: NPS Seeks Comment for Environmental Review Process [...]

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